Comments on: The top 10 domain awards and yes .mobi really is that bad! http://selfmademinds.com/200711/the-top-10-domain-awards-and-yes-mobi-really-is-that-bad/ Sharing lessons learned in business and online marketing Sun, 12 Oct 2008 22:02:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Self Made Minds » Blog Archive » 61% of UK domain sales are undeveloped investments http://selfmademinds.com/200711/the-top-10-domain-awards-and-yes-mobi-really-is-that-bad/#comment-5812 Self Made Minds » Blog Archive » 61% of UK domain sales are undeveloped investments Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:43:49 +0000 http://selfmademinds.com/200711/the-top-10-domain-awards-and-yes-mobi-really-is-that-bad/#comment-5812 [...] look at the UK domain market seeing as it is more affordable at present to get into and one of the top domain extensions, using Domain Prices who publish a list of publicly known UK domain sales you can get a good idea [...] [...] look at the UK domain market seeing as it is more affordable at present to get into and one of the top domain extensions, using Domain Prices who publish a list of publicly known UK domain sales you can get a good idea [...]

]]> By: Justin Cook http://selfmademinds.com/200711/the-top-10-domain-awards-and-yes-mobi-really-is-that-bad/#comment-5308 Justin Cook Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:43:20 +0000 http://selfmademinds.com/200711/the-top-10-domain-awards-and-yes-mobi-really-is-that-bad/#comment-5308 To be brutally honest, I don't think it will <em>ever</em> happen. Look at wap, it really never caught on that huge. I think the real value and thrust will be in larger, existing sites, creating mobile-friendly versions, and the iPhone will be the driving force behind that. To be brutally honest, I don’t think it will ever happen. Look at wap, it really never caught on that huge. I think the real value and thrust will be in larger, existing sites, creating mobile-friendly versions, and the iPhone will be the driving force behind that.

]]> By: Brian Stevens http://selfmademinds.com/200711/the-top-10-domain-awards-and-yes-mobi-really-is-that-bad/#comment-5290 Brian Stevens Wed, 21 Nov 2007 00:50:28 +0000 http://selfmademinds.com/200711/the-top-10-domain-awards-and-yes-mobi-really-is-that-bad/#comment-5290 More people surf the net with their mobile phones - I, for one, like to know that when I go a site, it's been customized for the mobile experience via .mobi, as opposed to "too much", "nothing" or "too long to load" on one of the other extensions-- eg, .com, .net --- what other extension has been embraced by the biggest brands in such a short period of time? What other extension has created so much controversy in such a short time? What other extension has had sales in auctions (on the secondary market) in such a short period of time? what are some of the investors/partners? Nobody that big - just Google, Microsoft, T-Mobile, Nokia, Telecom Italia, Samsung, etc --- Mobi is hot, but for it to really sizzle, it needs more development -- when/if that happens, mobi will be a force -- again, mobi will require wide development to succeed --- but it's surely one of the top 4 domains right now, based on brands, press, and sales --- More people surf the net with their mobile phones - I, for one, like to know that when I go a site, it’s been customized for the mobile experience via .mobi, as opposed to “too much”, “nothing” or “too long to load” on one of the other extensions– eg, .com, .net —

what other extension has been embraced by the biggest brands in such a short period of time? What other extension has created so much controversy in such a short time? What other extension has had sales in auctions (on the secondary market) in such a short period of time?

what are some of the investors/partners? Nobody that big - just Google, Microsoft, T-Mobile, Nokia, Telecom Italia, Samsung, etc —

Mobi is hot, but for it to really sizzle, it needs more development — when/if that happens, mobi will be a force —

again, mobi will require wide development to succeed —

but it’s surely one of the top 4 domains right now, based on brands, press, and sales —

]]> By: Rob http://selfmademinds.com/200711/the-top-10-domain-awards-and-yes-mobi-really-is-that-bad/#comment-5289 Rob Wed, 21 Nov 2007 00:46:02 +0000 http://selfmademinds.com/200711/the-top-10-domain-awards-and-yes-mobi-really-is-that-bad/#comment-5289 I have been using the internet on my mobile device for the last 6-7 years without .mobi I expect bandwidth and devices to keep improving, and frankly mobi cannot have it both ways. To be fair if .mobi was there instead of WAP then there would have been a window of opperunity, however that has long gone. I want youtube, dynamic maps and fancy gizmos, not a 1999 WAP page. Obviously you will not agree, but all the arguements are out there already and end users are the one that count. You have listed a few, big corps that need to have fingers in every pie. How about a summary of how 'investors' ie. google - who rewrite pages, and say Vodafone, who er, rewrite pages for users as well are helping mobi?! :) I am sure you and others will make cash from the bandwagon, I just hope the new domainers are not burned as the industry does not need more bad publicity. I have been using the internet on my mobile device for the last 6-7 years without .mobi

I expect bandwidth and devices to keep improving, and frankly mobi cannot have it both ways.

To be fair if .mobi was there instead of WAP then there would have been a window of opperunity, however that has long gone.

I want youtube, dynamic maps and fancy gizmos, not a 1999 WAP page.

Obviously you will not agree, but all the arguements are out there already and end users are the one that count. You have listed a few, big corps that need to have fingers in every pie.

How about a summary of how ‘investors’ ie. google - who rewrite pages, and say Vodafone, who er, rewrite pages for users as well are helping mobi?! :)

I am sure you and others will make cash from the bandwagon, I just hope the new domainers are not burned as the industry does not need more bad publicity.

]]> By: Vance Hedderel, Director of PR & Communications, dotMobi http://selfmademinds.com/200711/the-top-10-domain-awards-and-yes-mobi-really-is-that-bad/#comment-5287 Vance Hedderel, Director of PR & Communications, dotMobi Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:29:40 +0000 http://selfmademinds.com/200711/the-top-10-domain-awards-and-yes-mobi-really-is-that-bad/#comment-5287 Mind if I give you the dotMobi perspective on the mobile web and why .mobi matters? There are more than 80,000,000 .com / .net / .org sites but only 0.03% of those are mobile friendly. Yet there are four times as many mobile phones sold as PCs. 1.3 billion users can access the internet on their mobiles. That's 36% more mobile web users than PC-based web users. Browser advances, high-end handsets and .com-based domains don’t address the mobile context. TVs, PCs and Mobile each address specific needs, have unique uses and different revenue streams. What may seem like a proliferation of high-end handsets actually represents a tiny fraction of the overall marketplace; the demand for mobile content is not going to wait for that penetration to happen. The .mobi domain is the one solution that addresses the needs of the "third screen." Unlike m.domain.com, wap.domain.com, domain.com/m, etc., a .mobi address promises end users that a site will work on a mobile phone. That's because dotMobi helps content providers make their sites adhere to enforceable technical standards. Some domain investors may not value .mobi, but a lot of brands do, including: American Automobile Association Amazon Amtrak AXA Bank of America Benetton BMW BusinessWeek CNN Money Diageo (Smirnoff.mobi) Disney E! Channel ESPN Ford Ferrari Fox News Hilton Intel Library of Congress Marriott Maxim (Magazine) NBA Paramount Ralph Lauren / Polo TBS (TV channel) The Sun Time (Magazine) USA Network Wachovia The Weather Channel Yahoo! ZAGAT Mind if I give you the dotMobi perspective on the mobile web and why .mobi matters?

There are more than 80,000,000 .com / .net / .org sites but only 0.03% of those are mobile friendly.

Yet there are four times as many mobile phones sold as PCs. 1.3 billion users can access the internet on their mobiles. That’s 36% more mobile web users than PC-based web users.

Browser advances, high-end handsets and .com-based domains don’t address the mobile context. TVs, PCs and Mobile each address specific needs, have unique uses and different revenue streams. What may seem like a proliferation of high-end handsets actually represents a tiny fraction of the overall marketplace; the demand for mobile content is not going to wait for that penetration to happen. The .mobi domain is the one solution that addresses the needs of the “third screen.”

Unlike m.domain.com, wap.domain.com, domain.com/m, etc., a .mobi address promises end users that a site will work on a mobile phone. That’s because dotMobi helps content providers make their sites adhere to enforceable technical standards.

Some domain investors may not value .mobi, but a lot of brands do, including:

American Automobile Association
Amazon
Amtrak
AXA
Bank of America
Benetton
BMW
BusinessWeek
CNN Money
Diageo (Smirnoff.mobi)
Disney
E! Channel
ESPN
Ford
Ferrari
Fox News
Hilton
Intel
Library of Congress
Marriott
Maxim (Magazine)
NBA
Paramount
Ralph Lauren / Polo
TBS (TV channel)
The Sun
Time (Magazine)
USA Network
Wachovia
The Weather Channel
Yahoo!
ZAGAT

]]> By: Justin Cook http://selfmademinds.com/200711/the-top-10-domain-awards-and-yes-mobi-really-is-that-bad/#comment-5286 Justin Cook Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:24:50 +0000 http://selfmademinds.com/200711/the-top-10-domain-awards-and-yes-mobi-really-is-that-bad/#comment-5286 I personally hate the .mobi TLD. I feel strongly that every popular site should have a mobile-ready interface, and not need a separate domain for it. I personally hate the .mobi TLD. I feel strongly that every popular site should have a mobile-ready interface, and not need a separate domain for it.

]]> By: Scott http://selfmademinds.com/200711/the-top-10-domain-awards-and-yes-mobi-really-is-that-bad/#comment-5279 Scott Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:32:13 +0000 http://selfmademinds.com/200711/the-top-10-domain-awards-and-yes-mobi-really-is-that-bad/#comment-5279 I still don't see the need for .mobi personally, users are often not appreciative of scaled down versions of sites, advanced users may like that but not the masses. we will see. info messed up with their cheap reg fee's making them throw away domains and mass spammed with so I'd agree with you there. I still don’t see the need for .mobi personally, users are often not appreciative of scaled down versions of sites, advanced users may like that but not the masses. we will see. info messed up with their cheap reg fee’s making them throw away domains and mass spammed with so I’d agree with you there.

]]> By: Steve Dyke http://selfmademinds.com/200711/the-top-10-domain-awards-and-yes-mobi-really-is-that-bad/#comment-5278 Steve Dyke Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:32:12 +0000 http://selfmademinds.com/200711/the-top-10-domain-awards-and-yes-mobi-really-is-that-bad/#comment-5278 With regards to the overall results, a great response from some of the best in the world of domains, if these guys and gals don't know then its not worth knowing when it comes to domains. as for the .mobi extension, as mobile browser technology develops further, the need for a seperate site i.e. on the .mobi exstension will no longer be a requirement. New gadgets are out there now that will view the standard web page as you want to see it and without having to put up with slow download times. Check out the Pocket Surfer 2 over at Firebox or Coolest-Gadgets.com post from back in September to see what I mean. With regards to the overall results, a great response from some of the best in the world of domains, if these guys and gals don’t know then its not worth knowing when it comes to domains.

as for the .mobi extension, as mobile browser technology develops further, the need for a seperate site i.e. on the .mobi exstension will no longer be a requirement.

New gadgets are out there now that will view the standard web page as you want to see it and without having to put up with slow download times. Check out the Pocket Surfer 2 over at Firebox or Coolest-Gadgets.com post from back in September to see what I mean.

]]> By: Scott http://selfmademinds.com/200711/the-top-10-domain-awards-and-yes-mobi-really-is-that-bad/#comment-5277 Scott Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:29:44 +0000 http://selfmademinds.com/200711/the-top-10-domain-awards-and-yes-mobi-really-is-that-bad/#comment-5277 I didn't think about the .biz Adrian, your right though that is another one that may well carve out it's place come time. I didn’t think about the .biz Adrian, your right though that is another one that may well carve out it’s place come time.

]]> By: Rob http://selfmademinds.com/200711/the-top-10-domain-awards-and-yes-mobi-really-is-that-bad/#comment-5276 Rob Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:28:32 +0000 http://selfmademinds.com/200711/the-top-10-domain-awards-and-yes-mobi-really-is-that-bad/#comment-5276 When the browser improves there is less need for .mobi eg. iphone now... imagine it in 3-5 years time :) When the browser improves there is less need for .mobi

eg. iphone now… imagine it in 3-5 years time :)

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